1 00:00:00,220 --> 00:00:01,219 Hello, everyone. 2 00:00:02,028 --> 00:00:07,950 Uh, I would I will start, although I don't live in Yelp Kuratchuk, but 3 00:00:07,951 --> 00:00:13,710 I had the chance to build relationships very strong and very 4 00:00:13,711 --> 00:00:19,469 we have very big impact in Yelp Kurajuk, and I would like to share with you how we 5 00:00:19,471 --> 00:00:24,000 became to realize that probably we are building a restorative city. 6 00:00:24,780 --> 00:00:28,780 It wasn't really um an explicit aim. 7 00:00:28,781 --> 00:00:34,619 It was mostly an aim to rebuild the trust in 8 00:00:34,620 --> 00:00:39,630 relationships and rebuild as much as possible a healthy community. 9 00:00:40,189 --> 00:00:45,509 So we would like to um share a little bit the journey what we went through. 10 00:00:46,689 --> 00:00:51,170 Starting with where and why and Coti will talk about where. 11 00:00:51,170 --> 00:00:56,689 I will continue with why and with whom and uh Coti uh will continue with 12 00:00:56,690 --> 00:00:59,490 how and what is going on now. 13 00:00:59,490 --> 00:01:02,420 So I will give the microphone to Coti. 14 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:04,400 Thank you. 15 00:01:04,401 --> 00:01:10,400 Here you see the map of Romania and you see the place where uh Mirkuk 16 00:01:10,401 --> 00:01:11,120 is. 17 00:01:11,121 --> 00:01:16,560 And this is a small city, but it is a county uh seat city. 18 00:01:16,561 --> 00:01:19,680 It's the major city of the county, Horgita County. 19 00:01:19,681 --> 00:01:25,090 There are thirty five thousand um inhabitants of the city. 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:31,120 And uh we live here in uh middle in the middle of um a mixed community, 21 00:01:31,121 --> 00:01:34,640 seventy more than seventy five percent of the community is Hungarian, 22 00:01:34,641 --> 00:01:36,480 and uh the the rest of the community is uh 23 00:01:36,481 --> 00:01:39,280 Romanian and the Roma community. 24 00:01:39,281 --> 00:01:40,370 And here we are. 25 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:44,439 Okay. 26 00:01:44,989 --> 00:01:46,469 So I will continue, um 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,930 With us with 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,760 Explaining the why, why restorative practices and why in especially in that 29 00:01:55,761 --> 00:01:58,000 part of the country. 30 00:01:58,001 --> 00:02:04,000 Uh, to understand our journey, uh, we have to look back a little bit 31 00:02:04,001 --> 00:02:09,038 at the uh past of the region and of the country. 32 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:14,879 Um, the context, it's I think it's very known for a lot of people 33 00:02:14,881 --> 00:02:19,169 uh for four decades, uh, the Chaos regime. 34 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:25,370 was present very heavily in in the the the whole country but with a very strong 35 00:02:25,371 --> 00:02:31,210 focus on Transylvania especially because uh what uh Coti just mentioned the 36 00:02:31,211 --> 00:02:34,300 majority of the population uh it's Hungarian. 37 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:40,229 And um, we lived and we were born and we were taught and we lived uh 38 00:02:42,349 --> 00:02:48,189 Hearing all ways from early education to work places, 39 00:02:48,191 --> 00:02:50,590 these codes, quotes. 40 00:02:50,591 --> 00:02:54,509 Um, and it was interesting to hear how that rest rest restorative uh 41 00:02:54,510 --> 00:02:56,590 justice will contribute to the 42 00:02:56,591 --> 00:03:00,990 development and the the the of democracy. 43 00:03:00,991 --> 00:03:06,590 And if you read the first quote, you understand why it's so hard to talk about 44 00:03:06,591 --> 00:03:08,319 democracy in Romania. 45 00:03:08,979 --> 00:03:14,580 Um, and unfortunately not only in Romania, but in eastern European countries, it's very 46 00:03:14,581 --> 00:03:15,699 difficult. 47 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:19,699 So with if if you hear that all the time, that we don't understand 48 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:21,620 democracy in its bourgeois 49 00:03:21,621 --> 00:03:26,340 meaning of babbling, lack of discipline, energy. 50 00:03:26,341 --> 00:03:32,259 We understand democracy as the active participation, which is good, but of the 51 00:03:32,260 --> 00:03:36,710 citizen in formulating and implementing the party's policy. 52 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:41,840 And the party's policy was represented through 53 00:03:41,841 --> 00:03:47,599 Chaosescu, and he was very clear that 54 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,879 the party has the right and duty to monitor and 55 00:03:52,881 --> 00:03:57,009 direct all areas of social and private life. 56 00:03:57,810 --> 00:04:03,569 Because in a socialist society no one can stand above the law and no 57 00:04:03,570 --> 00:04:07,539 one can live outside the control of the commun community. 58 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:10,949 So that suggests that. 59 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,439 Believing in the power of the community, it's very risky, it's dangerous. 60 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:23,199 You never know that we we we we we we we we we we we used to say that even the wool have ears, 61 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,519 and you never know who is the one who is going to report. 62 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:28,519 Um 63 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:35,100 And uh, as it was it's mentioned here, um, it's a duty to 64 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:39,389 report everything which doesn't fit in that uh policy. 65 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:44,189 Uh, the most um well. 66 00:04:46,319 --> 00:04:52,240 Heavy, let's say, heavy uh directive, um, which showed that 67 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,920 it's it didn't affect only the structural um 68 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,360 regime, but it it it affected also the private and intimate life of people. 69 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,199 Was the directive, uh, the last one, um, saying that the fetus is 70 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,720 the socialist pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro property of the whole society, anyone who 71 00:05:14,721 --> 00:05:15,720 avoids having. 72 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,850 Children is a deserter who abandons the law of national continuity. 73 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:27,250 Uh there is w uh there was a police um requirement to uh check 74 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:30,819 if the women had menstruation uh every month. 75 00:05:31,329 --> 00:05:35,569 So you can understand why. 76 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:41,569 It was something what really had a impact on not only 77 00:05:41,570 --> 00:05:47,410 the trust in the society, but also on the relationship within a 78 00:05:47,411 --> 00:05:48,410 family. 79 00:05:49,009 --> 00:05:54,930 Um, so that this blueprint of the uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh d d dictatorship uh built a 80 00:05:54,930 --> 00:05:57,139 cast a culture of mistrust. 81 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,839 Fear, isolation affecting everyone. 82 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:06,560 Um, this systemic m m m m m m m m m m mistrust is still embedded in 83 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,920 society. 84 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,689 Uh, I would like to show some quotes. 85 00:06:12,189 --> 00:06:17,069 From um Herta Müller, she was a Nobel Prize winner for the 86 00:06:17,070 --> 00:06:21,470 literature, uh, in seventy-four, I I think. 87 00:06:21,471 --> 00:06:27,470 But her words are very strongly uh showing us why we need to do 88 00:06:27,471 --> 00:06:29,550 something, why we have to do something. 89 00:06:29,550 --> 00:06:34,079 So in this country, we had to walk, eat, sleep, and love in fear. 90 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:42,350 I have packed myself into silence so deeply and for so long that I 91 00:06:42,350 --> 00:06:46,430 can never un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un un unpack myself using words. 92 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:50,480 When I speak, I only pack myself a little differently. 93 00:06:51,579 --> 00:06:57,019 And this is what we still hear from people that we don't have 94 00:06:57,020 --> 00:06:58,139 words. 95 00:06:58,140 --> 00:07:02,589 We don't want it to have words because it was too uh 96 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:11,620 Hard hard to realize that you have uh these kind of feelings. 97 00:07:11,620 --> 00:07:17,060 And something what relates to our journey now, um, as it's in the last 98 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:22,740 quote, um, no cities can grow in a dictatorship because anything 99 00:07:22,740 --> 00:07:25,350 stays small when it's being watched. 100 00:07:27,250 --> 00:07:32,689 It's um a powerful uh quote because it says that we 101 00:07:32,690 --> 00:07:35,379 cannot really move fast. 102 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:41,180 Uh, from uh nineteen eighty nine when the uh regime uh 103 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:46,220 ended, uh, although we would like to move fast, but it's 104 00:07:46,221 --> 00:07:51,949 impossible because always everywhere you see the triggers of this trauma. 105 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:58,579 And one of the trigger why uh I was invited to um Yarkuriachuk is 106 00:07:58,580 --> 00:08:01,189 because of this picture, and I will let uh 107 00:08:04,139 --> 00:08:07,180 Uh, here you can see two images about the city. 108 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:09,899 The first one, the bigger one, is the the the the the the the the 109 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:12,620 the the the the the the the the the the the the the major square of the 110 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:17,980 city is a huge communist socialist style uh um 111 00:08:17,980 --> 00:08:23,790 uh uh square which is named by the people of Mirkurachu uh Clep. 112 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:26,290 Clepp square. 113 00:08:26,290 --> 00:08:32,210 It was built it was built on the the place of houses, like you see 114 00:08:32,211 --> 00:08:34,210 in the second image. 115 00:08:34,211 --> 00:08:40,210 These houses were were destroyed, totally inhabitants 116 00:08:40,211 --> 00:08:44,529 were moved out in in flats, like you see in the first image, 117 00:08:44,530 --> 00:08:46,049 and it was a huge 118 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:50,210 collective trauma for for the community of Mirkurachuk. 119 00:08:50,211 --> 00:08:52,019 Here you can see. 120 00:08:57,500 --> 00:09:01,899 Here you can see the University of Sapiencia, the building of the University of 121 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:03,580 Sapientia. 122 00:09:03,581 --> 00:09:07,899 I should say now that when we will talk today about 123 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:12,539 Sapiencia, we will talk about the faculty of Mercuir Chuk. 124 00:09:12,540 --> 00:09:18,460 This is a huge institution with four locations across Transylvania, financed 125 00:09:18,461 --> 00:09:23,659 by the Hungarian state and funded by the Hungarian historical churches of 126 00:09:23,660 --> 00:09:24,779 Transylvania. 127 00:09:24,780 --> 00:09:26,429 And what we will talk about about 128 00:09:26,970 --> 00:09:32,570 Restorative processes will be we will refer to the campus of 129 00:09:32,571 --> 00:09:33,769 Mirkurachuk. 130 00:09:33,770 --> 00:09:39,610 I don't want to give the image that all the universities involved in this 131 00:09:39,610 --> 00:09:40,330 process. 132 00:09:40,331 --> 00:09:45,929 The faculty of Mirkurachuk is mainly involved in these restorative processes. 133 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:51,529 And there are now current initiatives to widen 134 00:09:51,530 --> 00:09:54,139 the sphere of these initiatives. 135 00:09:55,899 --> 00:10:01,740 And the the second image is a uh street, the main street of the city, uh, 136 00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:03,230 which remained intact. 137 00:10:04,259 --> 00:10:06,070 Survive to this period of time. 138 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:14,059 So as you can hear, maybe our voices are a bit a little bit shaking. 139 00:10:14,060 --> 00:10:18,779 It's the first time when we speak about this in the public. 140 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:23,500 It's the first time when we speak together in this presentation. 141 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:28,539 And our shaking voice, I think, refers to 142 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:29,820 this. 143 00:10:29,821 --> 00:10:33,789 We still have these negative feelings when we talk about the past. 144 00:10:34,450 --> 00:10:37,460 Um, and the main um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um 145 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,440 Uh, duty what we had uh as 146 00:10:42,490 --> 00:10:48,399 As parents, as teachers, as professionals, as citizens, uh, we thought that 147 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,289 it's this to uh resolve this erosion of 148 00:10:53,169 --> 00:10:59,059 Trust to restore the the trust in the community, uh, to protect the children. 149 00:10:59,570 --> 00:11:00,570 Um 150 00:11:00,929 --> 00:11:02,740 So uh from from from from from from from from from from from the um 151 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:04,519 Yeah. 152 00:11:04,879 --> 00:11:10,240 reminiscentive of the past and to help them to build a life much more 153 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,360 healthier without fear um for themselves and for their 154 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:21,279 family uh and that meant that um they have to learn to express the emotion 155 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,320 and to be okay expressing emotion to have words to express their 156 00:11:26,321 --> 00:11:32,080 needs um and also to realize that it's okay um 157 00:11:32,081 --> 00:11:33,080 to um 158 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,919 open up and be honest and be truthful when you are speaking with the 159 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,879 others. 160 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,720 So what we told that we have to do as psychologists is 161 00:11:46,721 --> 00:11:51,330 to provide therapy, therapy, therapeutic sessions. 162 00:11:51,809 --> 00:11:56,610 And this is how I met the innovator, innovator on the 163 00:11:56,610 --> 00:12:02,210 visionary of this process, Eva 164 00:12:02,211 --> 00:12:03,210 War. 165 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:12,559 Um, she um was the founder, um, founder member and president of the 166 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:16,320 psychodrama society, and the you can read the rest. 167 00:12:16,321 --> 00:12:22,080 And uh, my voice is even worse now, because we lost her um a few 168 00:12:22,081 --> 00:12:23,080 months ago. 169 00:12:23,539 --> 00:12:24,899 Uh, she was a good friend. 170 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:30,179 She reached to me uh saying that we need to do something more than the private 171 00:12:30,180 --> 00:12:31,860 therapeutic session. 172 00:12:31,860 --> 00:12:34,659 She was also psychodrama therapist. 173 00:12:34,660 --> 00:12:40,580 And she also was teaching um in Sapiencia, but we met uh because our 174 00:12:40,581 --> 00:12:43,299 supervisor was the same. 175 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:49,220 Uh she was um Emma Farstrom from Sweden was a supervisor for both b b b b b b b b b both of us. 176 00:12:49,221 --> 00:12:52,870 Uh so this is how we met, and she invited me to meet. 177 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:53,960 Gruck. 178 00:12:54,450 --> 00:13:00,129 Um, and we dreamed a lot, a lot of about what can we do to 179 00:13:00,130 --> 00:13:05,889 heal the community of Mir Kuratuuk and not only the community of Mir Kuratchuk, but the county 180 00:13:05,890 --> 00:13:07,809 and the country. 181 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:13,009 And because she was the one who um initiated the school 182 00:13:13,010 --> 00:13:18,450 psychologist network in the country, uh, and then in the 183 00:13:18,451 --> 00:13:23,779 country, um, we thought that it's it would be good to start with those. 184 00:13:23,909 --> 00:13:29,580 Who need more the more who to need to have the possibility to 185 00:13:29,581 --> 00:13:33,259 develop a different lifestyle than we had. 186 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:39,019 So we started um to think about where it's best to start, and 187 00:13:39,020 --> 00:13:42,539 and of course we decided that schools will be the best. 188 00:13:42,540 --> 00:13:43,710 And the first 189 00:13:45,139 --> 00:13:50,070 A step was to bring together a people who trusted Eva. 190 00:13:50,610 --> 00:13:55,490 Not trusting the philosophy because they had no idea what it's all about. 191 00:13:55,490 --> 00:13:58,100 So our journey was really built on um 192 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:04,559 Trustful relationships and it had to be small because you can never know, 193 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,450 could never know who is going to 194 00:14:07,409 --> 00:14:10,129 Uh, be the person who is still reporting. 195 00:14:10,130 --> 00:14:15,730 So unfortunately, this mistrust was very, very um strongly embedded in 196 00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:18,049 our in the community. 197 00:14:18,050 --> 00:14:23,809 So we start a small, you know, with a small group of teachers, 198 00:14:23,810 --> 00:14:29,649 um, psychotherapists, social workers, um, who had a good 199 00:14:29,650 --> 00:14:34,769 um relation with her because she was the one who uh was a 200 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:37,059 guarantee that things will. 201 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,610 Go in a good way. 202 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:44,509 Uh, you see here on the picture the second um group of uh people trained um 203 00:14:45,940 --> 00:14:51,779 Going for a restorative training, which initially was planned to be 204 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:57,779 a two day training, then became a four day training, and then became a six day training, 205 00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:03,139 because we had to deal with the trauma and with the emotion, what you still can 206 00:15:03,140 --> 00:15:07,379 see in us of the participants. 207 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:12,100 Until then, it was a taboo to talk about the fears, to talk about the 208 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:13,539 mistrust. 209 00:15:13,540 --> 00:15:15,429 It was okay to not speak. 210 00:15:16,210 --> 00:15:17,490 At all. 211 00:15:17,490 --> 00:15:23,250 So it took us a few, um, few days, weeks and months 212 00:15:23,250 --> 00:15:28,419 to to really start to share honestly, uh, what uh what we can do together. 213 00:15:29,299 --> 00:15:35,059 Uh, so we started to train the school psychologists uh from not 214 00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:40,340 only uh Mir Kuriachuk but from the county, and um a total of sixty 215 00:15:40,341 --> 00:15:45,620 five school psychologists were trained in restorative practices. 216 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:51,220 Uh um, and uh after few uh months um I 217 00:15:51,221 --> 00:15:53,700 got these uh response. 218 00:15:53,701 --> 00:15:54,700 Um 219 00:15:55,299 --> 00:16:01,299 You heard in the morning and during the day what type of techniques we use to restore 220 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:04,100 relationships, repair harm, and so on. 221 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:09,940 But it was interesting to see that school psychologists are opening up 222 00:16:09,941 --> 00:16:13,429 to the teachers and children and parents. 223 00:16:14,820 --> 00:16:18,389 Uh, by using restorative proactive searches. 224 00:16:19,149 --> 00:16:25,070 Um, it was also clear, and you can see that um eighty percent of them 225 00:16:25,071 --> 00:16:28,879 are using restorative questions when something happens. 226 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:35,360 Also a big number it uh starts to use more often uh not 227 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:40,879 only with children, but with teachers and the parents, and of course with the colleagues, I 228 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:46,000 statement and other nonviolent communication uh strategies. 229 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Um, and it became obvious that we really uh need to start to use uh 230 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,679 reactive circles as well, but it took time to be uh enough, uh 231 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,769 strong enough. 232 00:16:58,909 --> 00:17:00,789 To open up uh to um 233 00:17:02,029 --> 00:17:07,868 Let people to have a discussion or to share stories about the hard topics. 234 00:17:07,869 --> 00:17:13,710 So that's why our trainings were much more like a journey towards healing 235 00:17:13,711 --> 00:17:18,078 and learning what are the restorative principles and values. 236 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Um 237 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:22,348 In two years, um 238 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,078 Well, or after the training. 239 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:28,000 Then the copy will more more more more more more more more more more 240 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,279 more we'll talk about this later. 241 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,250 After the training, um, a core group decided to meet every 242 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,279 Mm. 243 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:38,690 Uh, to keep this uh 244 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:47,200 This endeavor going, and this is the first 245 00:17:47,201 --> 00:17:53,200 workshop or historic meeting with the trained social uh workers and school 246 00:17:53,201 --> 00:17:56,240 counsellors, school psychologists. 247 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:02,240 But also this was the first time when different organizations were invited because 248 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:08,240 the schools because the school psychologists had their own network, then the 249 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,529 education was also involved. 250 00:18:10,859 --> 00:18:12,980 And of course sapiens, yeah, um. 251 00:18:13,269 --> 00:18:15,549 And the pedagogical institute was there. 252 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:22,049 And we work in circles, and we start to learn from each other what 253 00:18:22,050 --> 00:18:27,890 can we do to expand that movement which was 254 00:18:27,891 --> 00:18:29,809 really needed by everyone. 255 00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:35,410 And in order to inspire and to give motivation and keep 256 00:18:35,411 --> 00:18:41,329 the keep the motivation alive, um, I try to um make the connection with 257 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:42,819 the larger community. 258 00:18:44,049 --> 00:18:45,650 Uh, from abroad. 259 00:18:45,651 --> 00:18:51,490 So in this um first meeting, uh, I ask my colleagues from abroad to 260 00:18:51,490 --> 00:18:54,049 send messages to the locals. 261 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:55,049 And um 262 00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:59,859 Ted Wachtel and Susan Wachtel, the founders of International Institute 263 00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:01,059 for R R R R R R R R R Restorative 264 00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:07,059 Practices, among Terry O'Connell, the one who developed the restorative conference 265 00:19:07,060 --> 00:19:12,259 script, um, and uh Craig Adamson, who was the who is the 266 00:19:12,260 --> 00:19:18,019 provost of uh IRP, uh, everyone was very happy to share 267 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:23,940 their thoughts and and um ideas and uh um uh let them 268 00:19:23,941 --> 00:19:24,940 know that uh 269 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:29,730 Uh, they're not alone, and we can reach any time out for support. 270 00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:35,490 And we re really receive a lot of moral support from these 271 00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:37,250 international friends. 272 00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:43,089 Uh, then John Bailey, who was the president of IRP, came to Mirkuriachuk and did a 273 00:19:43,090 --> 00:19:47,089 presentation about the human the science of human dignity. 274 00:19:47,090 --> 00:19:53,009 This is what restorative practices was presented for 275 00:19:53,010 --> 00:19:54,099 the local population. 276 00:19:54,539 --> 00:19:57,579 for the population of uh Mir Kuriachuk. 277 00:19:57,580 --> 00:20:03,420 And also a lot of inspirational um uh pictures and messages we 278 00:20:03,421 --> 00:20:09,420 got from different uh other colleagues from the international net net network uh from Costa Rica 279 00:20:09,421 --> 00:20:15,420 for example during that day they sent us the picture um of uh that 280 00:20:15,421 --> 00:20:20,940 circle what they just had in the morning uh but also um um um um um um um um 281 00:20:20,941 --> 00:20:21,019 um um um um um um um um um um um um 282 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,069 um a message uh which 283 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:29,799 Really thought about how important it is to bring restorative values 284 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,079 into the family. 285 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:37,000 So you see here a picture of Justin Moy from Singapore, who shared with us the 286 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,799 story of celebrating with within the family 287 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,640 the memory of a grandmother who passed away and 288 00:20:47,641 --> 00:20:52,569 in a circle with children, but also with the talking piece. 289 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:59,000 They talk about the uh stories, um, and uh share share the wisdom 290 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,880 of uh uh uh the old generation. 291 00:21:01,881 --> 00:21:02,880 Um 292 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,730 with with with us and um 293 00:21:07,539 --> 00:21:13,460 All these messages, uh, for me and for Eva were very important because we 294 00:21:13,461 --> 00:21:18,259 didn't really know how to start, how to make things to move quicker. 295 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:22,789 Uh, we thought that uh we can transform um the local um 296 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,609 Uh, mentality in maybe ten. 297 00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:33,279 Fifteen years, but I must say that it's still it's still an on as 298 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,000 you said uh before, it's really in progress, always. 299 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,049 It's under construction. 300 00:21:42,130 --> 00:21:46,450 The next step, main step, was to organize something, 301 00:21:46,451 --> 00:21:48,049 but it took us, I think, 302 00:21:48,050 --> 00:21:49,650 one year to organize. 303 00:21:49,651 --> 00:21:51,410 Oh, sorry, two years. 304 00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:54,740 During the COVID, we decided to 305 00:21:55,950 --> 00:22:01,470 Especially because COVID came with other burdens in developing the 306 00:22:01,471 --> 00:22:05,710 community and strengthening the relationships. 307 00:22:05,711 --> 00:22:09,230 We decided to have a hybrid conference. 308 00:22:09,230 --> 00:22:13,309 And it was a three lingual conference. 309 00:22:13,310 --> 00:22:18,829 And it was a process of organizing a 310 00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:22,430 conference in a restorative way online. 311 00:22:22,431 --> 00:22:27,200 So, for example, when the question was,What language should be the first? 312 00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:34,380 The Romanian, the Hungarian, or the English, uh, we all felt that it's a tension 313 00:22:34,381 --> 00:22:36,779 among us, although, although alt or alt alt alt alt although we thought that 314 00:22:36,780 --> 00:22:39,339 everything can be discussed openly. 315 00:22:39,340 --> 00:22:45,339 So we decided to put away uh this question for a while and start to listen to 316 00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:47,710 the stories behind this fear. 317 00:22:48,430 --> 00:22:52,240 And this happened online and finally the um 318 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Melinda, she was, um 319 00:22:57,099 --> 00:22:59,099 E economic director of the university. 320 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:03,740 So the economic director of the university, who also was a part of the group, 321 00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:04,859 came with the idea, 322 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:08,220 let's have a circle instead of a line. 323 00:23:08,221 --> 00:23:13,259 So in the this this this this this this way everyone can feel that it's treated in the same 324 00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:16,460 way in in this conference. 325 00:23:16,461 --> 00:23:22,220 There are a lot of questions were which were asked, or they are still waiting for an answer 326 00:23:22,221 --> 00:23:26,190 during this conference, but the impact of this conference was 327 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:30,579 Really, really um powerful, and it's still we can still 328 00:23:30,580 --> 00:23:32,740 see uh the impact of this uh 329 00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:33,779 conference. 330 00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:39,700 So what happened um after the conference, the deputy mayor who was invited 331 00:23:39,701 --> 00:23:44,019 to the conference decided to do something for the city. 332 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:45,019 That was the 333 00:23:45,539 --> 00:23:50,579 Time when she realized that this is what the community 334 00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:51,539 needs. 335 00:23:51,540 --> 00:23:57,460 Um, the group from Sapiencia um started to continue this work, 336 00:23:57,461 --> 00:23:58,460 and I will let uh 337 00:23:59,609 --> 00:24:03,680 Uh, Cotty, to continue, uh, only one thing what I would 338 00:24:03,681 --> 00:24:05,599 like to mention is that 339 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:11,279 um uh there are a lot of uh schools interested now in uh bringing 340 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,440 restorative practices and values for the whole school. 341 00:24:15,441 --> 00:24:21,119 So not only one or two teachers, or not only the psychologist, but the whole 342 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:22,079 school. 343 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,210 And especially 344 00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:30,990 In the last two or three years, this became very important because the time to 345 00:24:30,990 --> 00:24:36,910 reveal the traumatic past or the harm done by the so during the socialism 346 00:24:36,911 --> 00:24:42,589 era, but also the harm that the harm done because of the culture of 347 00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:45,549 silence now is revealed. 348 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:51,390 So, for example, it was a very critical situation when the sexual 349 00:24:51,391 --> 00:24:54,880 abuse done in a very famous uh school. 350 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:57,319 Um, was revealed uh by the 351 00:24:58,269 --> 00:25:01,950 Uh news by the news, by the media. 352 00:25:01,951 --> 00:25:02,950 Uh, so um 353 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:09,569 The teachers, the parents, the students, and everyone from the city needed a 354 00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:13,009 place where they can understand what happened. 355 00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:19,009 So this is where we started to use uh listening circles to not not not not 356 00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:19,411 not not not not not not 357 00:25:19,412 --> 00:25:24,769 not to uh have a discussion, but to understand, to hear and understand 358 00:25:24,770 --> 00:25:27,170 and decide what to do next. 359 00:25:27,171 --> 00:25:28,609 So what to do next? 360 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:29,609 I'm going to give 361 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:33,700 Okay. 362 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:42,000 So um I I have I should uh talk about sapiensia how the 363 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,359 seeds of restorative practices are developing and how we have 364 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:52,880 this this goal to to develop them in a more uh a 365 00:25:52,881 --> 00:25:58,799 wider institutional culture and uh to talk about what can a university what role can a 366 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,839 university play in um in in in in in in in in in in uh an emerging restorative city in the ending 367 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,799 in in in in in in in in in in in the beginning 368 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,799 there were training 369 00:26:06,140 --> 00:26:09,980 Uh training as Vivian mentioned, and uh these trainings had 370 00:26:09,980 --> 00:26:12,140 uh not only the role of of 371 00:26:12,141 --> 00:26:17,150 disseminating information, but also the role to constructing to form a 372 00:26:19,230 --> 00:26:20,720 Communities and um 373 00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:27,579 She talked about these events and due to these 374 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:33,500 trainings, we could enter in contact with other institutions, 375 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:36,460 which otherwise would remain separate. 376 00:26:36,461 --> 00:26:42,380 So we as university staff members we had contacts or more deep 377 00:26:42,381 --> 00:26:47,900 contacts with school counsellors, with the teachers from from 378 00:26:47,901 --> 00:26:50,349 elementary and secondary schools. 379 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,809 W with colleagues from the uh 380 00:26:54,369 --> 00:27:00,289 The teachers training um center and the resource uh the the local resource uh 381 00:27:00,290 --> 00:27:05,170 resource center colleagues and this uh this this this this this this this this this this uh this 382 00:27:05,171 --> 00:27:05,970 this this this this this this this this this is 383 00:27:05,971 --> 00:27:10,099 very important now because we know that we can rely one on another 384 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:17,119 One big question is how we can keep the process alive, because this is 385 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:22,559 a success story if I should tell about if I look back. 386 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,880 But in the meantime, this is not a tidy road. 387 00:27:26,881 --> 00:27:31,039 It has its heights and it's deeper. 388 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:37,039 We think that it's important to learn to have training processes, the 389 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,690 sharing practice, peer supervision, and continuity. 390 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:43,900 This is happening in Sapiencia. 391 00:27:43,901 --> 00:27:49,339 I consider Sapiens as a node in which we can uh all these uh initiatives 392 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:52,109 can meet this uh monthly um 393 00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:56,059 Meeting uh is uh continuing. 394 00:27:56,060 --> 00:27:57,059 Um 395 00:27:57,250 --> 00:28:02,930 30 of September will be the next meeting of us, and we will uh talk 396 00:28:02,931 --> 00:28:07,329 about organizing a conference in the memory of uh Eva Vaughn. 397 00:28:07,330 --> 00:28:13,250 Um, there are colleagues uh of this uh uh group who uh 398 00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:14,250 use uh 399 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,400 historical practices in their courses their contact with the students I 400 00:28:20,401 --> 00:28:23,009 myself use the uh this um 401 00:28:23,950 --> 00:28:24,950 Um 402 00:28:25,569 --> 00:28:29,890 approach in resolving conflicts between students and it has to to to to to 403 00:28:29,891 --> 00:28:31,009 to to to to to to be able to move 404 00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:36,930 forward with the with the with lessons with the with the scientific material and 405 00:28:36,931 --> 00:28:42,930 i think i i i just um talk fast yeah 406 00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:48,930 that what can a university do uh it's uh to give it it can uh 407 00:28:48,931 --> 00:28:54,420 have to uh uh give fundings uh for training uh it can uh 408 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,759 a short space for meeting um because the the university uh 409 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:06,759 always uh opened uh its door its doors and uh allowed it 410 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,880 to to to to to to to to to to to have uh restorative conferences or restorative 411 00:29:09,881 --> 00:29:12,279 meetings we have a restorative uh 412 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,119 um uh um uh room uh with this label on that that uh there is a 413 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:24,039 an outside uh sign that something is uh happening at the university and uh shortly i 414 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,039 i have to 415 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:30,990 Uh say that the leadership of the the big university director 416 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:32,079 is now 417 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:39,359 From familiar with this idea, and uh this conference in Page was a 418 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,039 good occasion to ask him if I can talk about Sapiencia as a 419 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,960 university, which is considering to introduce its larger uh 420 00:29:50,961 --> 00:29:55,730 culture, institutional culture this distorted approach, and I I 421 00:29:57,809 --> 00:30:02,130 Uh, he gave me this uh this firm and written confirmation that it it it it 422 00:30:02,131 --> 00:30:03,809 it it it it it it it is a serious uh 423 00:30:03,810 --> 00:30:05,650 um uh idea. 424 00:30:05,651 --> 00:30:06,980 And so uh I he 425 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:13,329 I could come here with this confirmation from the leadership. 426 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,029 All these uh presentations today, um 427 00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:21,809 Con conf conf conf conf conf conf conf conf confirm for me that uh it is important in 428 00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:24,130 a hierarchical institution such as the 429 00:30:24,131 --> 00:30:26,819 university the approval and the 430 00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:33,359 funding and the um the the participation of higher 431 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,799 uh leadership uh without that it is uh difficult to to to to to to to to to to 432 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,119 to to to to to to to to to to to to 433 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,009 do uh meaningful uh work 434 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:48,960 And uh yeah, I see that many relationships and many 435 00:30:48,961 --> 00:30:54,880 contacts between institutions are there now in Mir Kuratu, but there are 436 00:30:54,881 --> 00:30:58,690 not yet a assumed strategy of a city. 437 00:30:59,170 --> 00:31:04,849 It is a shared dream for many committed people, but there is 438 00:31:04,850 --> 00:31:08,019 no uh not not the there is no um 439 00:31:10,220 --> 00:31:11,710 Explicit strategy. 440 00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:15,730 Either from the university, either from the city. 441 00:31:15,730 --> 00:31:21,170 Big development in the university is that restorative approaches entered the 442 00:31:21,171 --> 00:31:24,690 university of Fisher regulation. 443 00:31:24,691 --> 00:31:28,289 It enters in the codes of ethics. 444 00:31:28,290 --> 00:31:33,730 There is there are some sentences which say that 445 00:31:33,730 --> 00:31:39,650 conflicts can be or should be addressed with restorative 446 00:31:39,651 --> 00:31:41,460 approaches and restorative. 447 00:31:41,619 --> 00:31:46,309 approaches uh can and should be used as preventive uh um um um um um um um um um um um 448 00:31:47,789 --> 00:31:48,910 Actions. 449 00:31:48,911 --> 00:31:50,880 And there is no no no no no no no no no no no uh 450 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:57,750 Clear structure yet how to do it, it will be the next step. 451 00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:00,210 Thank you for your attention.